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If you want to sit back on your backside and 
moan about the nine to five job that you've got   carry on. 66 grand over seven years 
that's more than tripling your cash   good deal how many Bazoomers have you just put 
in your pocket. Further profit of 78 thousand   nine hundred and eighty two pounds BOOM! Hello there and welcome to this week's edition 
of money matters because after all money   does matter! How would you like to discover as we 
go through this video together, how you can make a   hundred thousand pounds in just one deal? So we'll 
go through the amount of money you would need   what guarantees you've got but the thing that 
i'm talking about this week is rent to buy.   I think this is the most little known and best 
kept secret in the property industry there's so   many challenges out there for both tenants and 
landlords and very often it's tenants against   landlords one get set against the other so let 
me just give you an example of what i'm talking   about.

Especially during pandemic and you know 
lockdowns everything else people really struggled   and i get that i'm very very sympathetic as a 
landlord to tenants problem but if a tenant gets   to the point where they can't pay in a normal 
world. In my world, what i think would be a   good solution would be the tenant goes to see 
the landlord they have a discussion they agree   you know a payment plan or give it so many months 
or whatever, but at some point decent human beings   don't want to freeload on other people so they 
would agree right well can you give me a month   i'm trying my hardest, i'm going to get another 
job or whatever or my mum's going to lend me some   money or whatever it might be and i'll get you 
your rent one way or another.

But tell you what,   if i can't do that a month from now i'll just 
move out. Now that in my world that would be   a normal good conversation and i'll tell 
you why that conversation doesn't happen,   because if a tenant did that according to 
the rules according to the legal system   according to the benefit system they'd have 
just made themselves voluntarily homeless.   Now that to me is completely absurd they didn't 
get themselves made redundant on purpose they   didn't want to not pay the rent but if you speak 
to shelter or if you speak to the local council   they will tell you stay there until that landlord 
evicts you because only then will be you'll be   entitled to benefits.

So for me that is complete 
and utterly mad but that is the fundamental reason   why landlords and tenants are at loggerheads. If 
you said to a tenant what's your biggest problem   they'd probably say the landlord and if you said 
to the landlord what's your biggest problem they'd   probably save the tenant but it's because of the 
system. So how about we change the system so here   is the new system the rent to buy system instead 
of renting it to a regular tenant you actually   rent it to a tenant who's got aspirations of 
owning their own home and they enter into a   contract with you for seven years and i'll explain 
why seven years shortly and they pay a normal rent   over that seven years but also during that seven 
years they pay a little bit extra every month.   It's called, we call it a top-up that goes into a 
separate client account so you the landlord can't   touch it but over the seven years they save up a 
ten percent deposit and they then buy the house   or flat from you and the figure we use for the 
annual increase is the Rich's royal institute   charts fairs recommended an average which is 
four percent each year they're in the property   the property goes up in value normally and over 
a seven year period it's probably going to go up   by four percent compounded seven times which is 
roughly 31 so it's almost a third so if you had a   300 000 pound house they would buy it from you for 
roughly 400 000 pounds if you had 100 000 pound   house it will be 130 000 pounds that is the core 
that is the nuts and bolts of it but what we're   going to do now is we're going to look at this 
from everybody's perspective from the landlord's   perspective from the tenant's perspective from the 
estate agent's perspective because there's there's   very very few estate agents in the in the whole 
of the country that do this and i mean the whole   of the uk when i say the whole of the country and 
finally we're going to look at some actual numbers   for a hundred thousand pound profit or just a 
little bit over a hundred thousand pound profit   from one property and i think you're going to like 
it so strap yourself in enjoy the ride here we go   down the ramp to buy roller coaster okay so let's 
go look at this from a landlord's perspective i   want to introduce you to a good friend of mine 
this is Karen bock.

She inherited some money   and she wanted to make sure that she made the 
money work for her as opposed to her having to   work for the money so listen in i think you're 
going to like this. Hi i'm Karen and i'm here at   touchstone today to go and view my first property 
that i've bought and it's for a rent to buy and   i'm really excited about going to see this one 
now my mother died earlier on this year and   when my sister and i inherited their property 
which we sold for a substantial amount of money   i needed something to be doing with the money 
not just sticking at a bank and leaving it to   rot so i'd often thought about doing property 
and was talking to Gordie about sourcing the   property for me which she did we went to look 
at this property and i said yes straight away   it was a lovely house three-bedroom property only 
needs a tiny little bit of work doing to it which   is a great thumbs up so i didn't have to do loads 
of work put an offer in and they that offer was   accepted and we're just waiting now for it all 
to go through with this solicitors and everything   massive wise to why i'm doing this which is my son 
he's 16 and he's disabled he doesn't walk he never   will walk and unfortunately i know our care system 
so well that i know he'll always he doesn't ever   want to be what i call a wage slave i don't want 
him to be a wage slave either don't fall on these.

I prefer to buy to let because once i've bought 
once i've put the people in who are going to   rent it it's basically their home so they will 
eventually own it i don't need to do anything it   takes out all the hassle of having a buy to let 
of thinking oh if they broke a tap or i've got   to come and fix and break tire i've got to find a 
plumber no it's their problem not mine so they pay   a normal rent and a top up which goes towards it's 
paid them deposit for their mortgage if they walk   away from that that's that one is mine plus the 
fact if they default on their rent i've got top up   i can take that money the rent money from them so 
it's a no-brainer it's a win-win all the way down   the line it's lovely i like it i think someone's 
going to make somebody a really nice home   really nice home it's such a lovely area as well 
it's got everything shops around the corner nice   small area activities for kids to do you know 
so but i would say to anybody that is looking   to do something with money if they have to 
come into money don't just stick it in a bank   make it work for you go and get a look go and have 
a go and you meet so many nice people they're all   on the same wavelength as you you don't get looked 
at like an idiot what are you buying property for   first oh no buy property it's you know why not 
it's there to be had if you want to sit back on   your backside and learn about the nine to five 
job that you've got carry on because i want out   of mine okay so how about that what do you think 
to Karen and her journey that's exciting stuff   isn't it so there's the landlord let's now go and 
meet a lovely couple with some lovely children uh   so let's go and hear from lee and Ashlynn of some 
rent by tenants but Gordie and myself we took him   a little bottle of champagne say welcome to your 
new home and this is what they had to say about   rent to buy hello and welcome to Rossington so the 
two of us have come out to welcome a new tenant   who just moved in here yesterday wow they got 
this lovely new home and they've agreed to talk   to us about what differences made to them i'm 
looking forward to it and to welcome them to   their new home because they will be buying this 
see you inside i'd like to introduce you to lee   and Ashlynn so you've got you've got three lovely 
baby and you've got a fourth one on the way yes feels amazing yeah yeah process was fairly 
easy right yeah it's been really easy the only   stressful part was moving well yeah what's 
this little one called angelica angelica   you're here you're looking good now yeah yeah 
does it feel like a family home yet already   yes just after like one night i think 
it's because we all muddled in we all   pitched in and we all did a bit even 
the kids what's the last few years.

Yeah it's always been down to landlords selling 
houses from underneath yeah but well you've   given us an opportunity but i love doing this i 
love doing the we call it going to buy yeah rent i think that was our issue having just put a bit 
of money aside as well as paying the rent and   the bills at least this way it's all done in one 
move and you don't miss it because it's not there   we're not very good savers are we if we do 
save it's like something breaks down or the   kids need someone needs to pay for school trip 
or whatever so you're dipping in and dipping in   so somebody out there watching this that fancy 
the idea breaks by what advice would you give them   do it do it do it yeah i think that's 
it that's as simple as that just what a fabulous family i mean they were so 
delighted to be in that house and uh you didn't   see in the video but they actually had a couple 
of dogs as well so there are all sorts of issues   with with previous tenancies that rent buy just 
ticks all of their boxes next up in this quickfire   series through what is rent to buy let's go meet 
the agent so let's go meet my friend business   partner gordy duffield and let's find out what 
kind of properties do you need special mortgages   paperwork you know all that stuff over to gauri 
okay so i would like to introduce you to my   good friend and business partner gordy very good 
very good so gaudy you run diamond estates yeah   and one of the parts of diamond states is rent to 
buy why do you think rent to buy is a good thing   for land or dental okay i think in property what 
we've seen over the years is tenants v landlords   it's always been in tennessee landlords send a few 
landlords and i truly believe this is a complete   win-win for both parties is there anything wrong 
with us making money and helping other people no   i don't believe so so i think the big thing is for 
rent to buy for landlords is to secure income for   a many periods of years and for the tenants to get 
an opportunity what they made never had before an   opportunity to own their own home that's cool yeah 
couldn't agree more if we're going to try and help   both parties here so you know tenants landlords 
they'll be watching this video so if a landlord   wants to get into rent to buy yeah what sort of 
what's the ideal property uh good question um i   mean just to be clear we filled one bed flats we 
filled seven bed houses we filled forty thousand   pound house we filled one point two million pound 
houses but i think the ideal property that we look   at is a two three bedroom house um either a terra 
seven detached or detached that's the kind of idea   two three bed house does the garden matter um not 
massively what we are seeing since the covered as   gardens are becoming more popular uh what about 
parking garages anything like that again doesn't   really matter on street pack it's fine so what 
you're really talking about these vast majority   of properties are probably going to be suitable 
correct but what i'm getting a feel for is that   probably a studio flat is the least suitable yes 
it's not somebody's forever home no no which parts   of the country do you cover which parts of the 
country don't we cover maybe one everywhere all   over so top of scotland to the bottom of england 
we've got stuff right up in neon which is stayed   on vanessa and we've got stuff right down in 
portsmouth um all right so almost anywhere in   the uk or anywhere in the uk and the vast majority 
types of property yeah what about from a tenant's   perspective where do you find tenants from are 
there many of them in fact let me change the   question okay have you got more tenants or have 
you got more property more tenants more tenants   not how many more tenants thousands more 
settlements so that there's thousands thousands   of people that want to buy their own property 
correct and when when people come through with   diamond estates and say i've heard about this rent 
to buy thing or whatever do they actually believe   it or do they think what the hell is going on it 
takes some convincing we had to really adjust this   at the very start as well because we had to figure 
out what they didn't understand about it but no i   think uh once is explained clearly to them yep 
they get it it's pretty simple you know it's   pretty simple well it is essentially yeah rent for 
the seven years save up a deposit and buy that's there has to be downsides what's the downside 
here um downsides it's funny this because i don't   know if i see this as the downside but if you're a 
landlord and the property does increase more than   what the pre-agreed price was um you'll lose out 
on the money in the sale price but i always ask   the question would you be happy with seven years 
guaranteed right and an increase in 31.6 in seven   years well the answer is yes yeah and so i don't 
really see that as a downside but i suppose that   is yeah i do get that i get that from property 
investors because Warren Buffett obviously not   really a property investor is a stocks & shares 
investor but he says his favourite holding period   is forever yeah and there's many landlords that 
just don't like the idea of selling correct yeah   but i get and i normally counter that by saying 
well if you've if you've got one property and it   goes up in value by thirty percent of seven years 
you can take that the original equity you had in   your original house you can take the sale price 
yeah and you can turn one house into two typically   so yeah what about from the tenants perspective i 
mean i guess there will be downsides i mean i know   one of our rented by tenants discovered um after 
a couple of years that the property just wasn't   right for them and they left yeah i think it's 
something to do with the relationship or something   yeah but they had to walk away from two years top 
up money yeah that is the day downside people's   circumstances do change uh and with regards to 
the contract they are contractually obliged to   stay there for the period of the rental term if 
they leave early they lose their top up but that   is fully explained to them beforehand they are 
adults so they understand that when they're when   they're moving in what i want to do is i just 
want to ask you a dead simple question with one   hundred thousand pound house you know around here 
you can still buy a house hundred thousand pounds   yeah with a hundred thousand pound house how 
much money realistically do you think a landlord   could earn over the seven year period from the 
hundred thousand pound down towards what their   total income stream is going to be if you take 
a four percent average which is what we take   and four percent times four percent 
point four percent seven times   uh works out at thirty one point something percent 
so let's call it yeah thirty one percent yep   thirty one percent on a hundred thousand pound 
house is obviously thirty one thousand pounds yeah   so that's your capital increase what's the monthly 
rent on this one you're talking about um it sets   600 pounds per month 600 600 a month so if we 
then say that all your bills and the mortgage   and everything else it's not even going to be 200 
credit but less than 200 so say 650 650 650.

So   let's say 450 quid times 10 it's four and a 
half thousand uh so that'll be 5 400. yeah so   i reckon let's keep it simple make five five grand 
a month on the rent five grand a year a month yeah   that's gonna be 35 000 pounds rental profit 
right and 31 000 pound capital profits it's   a human calculator isn't he jesus he 
said it was a simple question as well   66 grams here's the question landlords out there 
oh potential androids out there would you be happy   with sixty six thousand pound profit from one 
hundred thousand pound house because if you're   going to buy a hundred thousand pound house 
you can still get eight percent buy more yeah   so you'd have to come up with 20 grand yeah 100 
so how about that everybody you put in 20 grand   your 20 grand could be returned to you with an 
extra 66 grand over seven years so that's more   than tripling your cash good deal you might be 
out there thinking jesus i've got some rent i've   got some bicycle properties i want them to rent to 
buy it or i'm going to go and buy something yeah   what should they do give me a phone okay simply 
so uh so here's the details for diamond is his   phone number here's the website address so just 
crack on and uh get all the goldie oh or one of   the team yeah definitely i mean just a word of 
warning it's absolutely fine speaking of gordy   or diamond uh but there's actually very very few 
agents that do this isn't there there's a couple   agents to do we're by far the biggest and best 
that do do so yeah so if you're interested you   want to learn more crack on pick up the phone 
send an email whatever thank you very much   thank you take care thank you boom all right so 
thank you gory that was fascinating wasn't it and   something gory and i just checked with him 
afterwards just to give bit extra information   last week diamond estates took on 17 more rent to 
buy properties and most of them are filled already   so imagine if you'd you'd been that landlord 
that gave diamond estates your property last week   probably have a tenant in it already so 17 
a week we're taking on at the moment there's   a massive demand for this anyway enough of 
the chit chat and meeting everyone let's go   to the numbers room and crunch some numbers okay 
so welcome to the numbers room this is the numbers   board but before we get to that look at this 
house so this is the house that i'm gonna use   uh just walk through the numbers with you 
on uh so this is um elm green um conisbourgh   and it's a property i'll show you all figures 
but it's a it's a three bed house that we're   turning to a four bed house so as you've heard 
three four bed detached houses with gardens   absolutely ideal for rent to buy so let's get into 
the numbers i want to give you the full numbers so   this is actually a combination strategy that i'm 
giving you now this is buy refurbish remortgage   and then rent to buy on the end so quickly 
we purchased this one for 163 thousand pounds   that was purchase price on this one i had 
to get all the the legals uh the refurb and   everything else and i was putting it all in one 
number the total total total was thirty five   thousand pounds all up we're into this property 
for what's that 188 thousand okay so that's the   total cost of buying it next what's it worth 
after the refurbs we've turned it from a three   bed to a four bit we just rearranged some of the 
walls upstairs it was actually quite cheap to do   boom it goes and re-values at 250 000 
pounds which is sweet now if you want to   you can you can put 80 percent um vitamin mortgage 
on that so 80 of that is 200 000 pounds still   quite affordable mortgages but we've only spent 
188 000 pounds so end of stage one we have got   a house with none of our own money in it and 12 
000 pounds catching happy days everyone happy   with that so that is part one you the landlord 
if it is you the landlord you've got a 250   000 pound house and that's the starting price 
okay you've got 200 000 pound mortgage on it 250   so in addition to the money you've pulled out 
you've also got 50 000 pounds of equity in the   property so along comes a tenant buyer and says 
i would like to rent that property for the short   term and i would like to purchase it in the long 
term and just to remind you the two main reasons   why tenant buyers don't buy their own houses 
straight off the bat is they've either got some   sort of poor credit history uh CCJ something 
like that and believe it or not 25 of the uk   population is impacted by some sort of credit 
issue 25 and the other main reason is they got a   deposit so we need to look at two things how does 
it impact what all the numbers for the tenants and   what's the numbers to the landlord so first up 
you've decided to sell it in seven years time   so one two three four five six seven 
years time and each year rick's rolling   chief chart surveyor said you should assume 
that house prices increased by four percent okay so the department of hard toms has 
been hard at work and drumroll please   here we go the sale price will be 328 982 pounds which is a profit a further profit 
of 78 982 pounds boom but that's not the end of it   that's just your capital profit on the sale of the 
property and don't forget if you want to take 12   grand out so you haven't actually got any of your 
own money in here so you've already got money out   plus further capital profit seven years 
time of three hundred and twenty eight   thousand nine hundred and eighty two minus two 
hundred and fifty thousand pounds seventy eight   thousand nine hundred and eighty two pounds 
happy days you know i said that's not all of   it that's just the capital profit well let's add 
the rent shall we so let's move our money up here   boom still makes me happy every time i see that 
and now let's add the rent profit the rent for   this particular house in this particular 
area is one thousand one hundred pounds   per month we're going to look at two separate 
things now we're gonna look at what do you   the landlord make money-wise out of it and what 
does it actually cost the tenant to buy it okay   so let's do the what do you make out of it 
first in fact no let's have a look at how   much does the tenant actually pay for us because 
that's nice and easy they pay the 1100 per month   but they also need a top up the top hub goes 
towards the deposit so they can buy it so they   need to have a 10 deposit so they can buy the 
property in seven years time to be safe let's   round that up to 330 000 so they need a 33 000 
pound deposit we can divide that by 84.

Why 84   well that's seven years times 12 months so if they 
contribute in monthly in even amounts it's that   figure divided by 84 so get the trusty calculator 
out 392 pounds and 85 pence so let's round it up   to that the top up will be 300 and let's call it 
395 because you don't want a silly figure like   392 pounds and 86 pence or at least i wouldn't on 
top of their uh rent money of 1100 they're paying   roughly an extra 400 a month and in seven years 
time they've got 33 000 pounds because this top up doesn't actually go into your bank account 
because that wouldn't be right or fair or ethical   actually goes into a client account which means 
unless they breach their terms and conditions or   don't pay the mortgage or something you can't 
touch it so as long as they honour their side   of the contract you've got on your side of the 
contract and they get 33 000 pounds cash back   at the end of the seven year period they take 
that and then they go and buy the house okay   so hope that's nice and clear so let's wipe that 
slate clean shall we what do you the landlord get   because i said right beginning of this you can 
make more than a hundred grand in one div you've   got to ignore the top-up because that's not your 
money unless they mess you about so you're getting   1100 a month now we said didn't we on this one 
that it was a 200 000 pound mortgage so what's   the interest payment our 200 pound mortgage well 
interest only is normal for buy to let so we've   got 200 000 like that and i'm going to say we 
said this was an 80 mortgage so i've actually   looked just before i recorded this at yeah these 
sort of price comparison websites for mortgages   and it was just a little bit less than 
but i'm going to call it four percent   200 000 times four percent is eight thousand 
pounds a year so if we divide that by 12   that is oh that's a scary number that's the number 
of the beast look at that this is the beast of a   project 666.

666. do i need a cross or something 
when i write that number down is it scary isn't it   so that's your mortgage what else do you 
need to pay well uh you need to pay insurance   and landlord insurance you know building insurance 
is probably going to be about 20 quid something   like that so let's just make it a national number 
if i put 24 there that's going to round it up   and what other costs have you got well here's the 
great bit yeah normally i'd be saying oh you need   to put aside 20 for you know voids and maintenance 
and all that but you don't because it's a rent to   buy so all the money you would normally have 
to spend on the property you know paint it fix   the boiler if it breaks all that stuff well the 
tenants doing that because that it's their home   or it will be in seven years time oh it's their 
home now for goodness sake because this that's   what the contract says it's binding as long 
as they do what they say they're going to do   so 24 quid for insurance now because 
rent to buys are so simple to manage   many people would manage it themselves but let's 
say worst case you actually employed an agent to   do it you negotiate with the agent you said i'll 
pay you 10 to normal rate but it's so easy bloody   bloody blah so let's call it 100 pounds so this 
is for the letting agent yeah you know for letting   fees let's add all that up 790 pounds so your 
total costs are 790 pounds so your profit per   month you've got your 1100 pounds we need to take 
off 790 pounds which makes 310 pounds per month   profit what i now need to do to get to my seven 
years profit is very very simple i need to take   my 310 pounds multiply it by 84 which is 7 years 
and 12 months which gives me a further 26 and 40   pounds now let's go for the grand total shall we 
are you ready for the big reveal the grand total   how many Bazoomers have you just put in your 
pocket how much extra cash have you got on your   hip will your trousers fall down these are all 
important questions to ask because look at this   boom grand total 105 022 of your english 
pounds well British pounds actually   so just to go through that slowly 
so we all explain all you understand   so we started off at 250 000 pounds didn't we so 
it's not fair you actually get 50 000 pounds cash   more than this but you could have sold it at the 
start for 250 000 pounds couldn't you so we're   talking about extra profit from rent to buy the 
fair way to do it is not to deduct the mortgage   but to deduct the start value so we've agreed the 
sale price with the tenant 328 982 pounds that's   four percent four percent four percent seven 
times the start value was a quarter million so   the extra money you've made because of rent to 
buy is 78 982 so it's just that take away that   and then we said per month you make 310 pound 
profit well if you do that for 7 years 12 months   in a year obviously that's where the 26 040 comes 
from add them together socks off go and catch your   socks they're flying around the living room 105 
022 pounds with zero aggravation because i've done   about you many people i talk to a lot of people 
that's what i do i'm a professional speaker i talk   a lot of people tell me that time is the most 
valuable asset they'll agree with yeah yeah yeah   time's like a favourable asset pool and then they 
want to micromanage everything i don't i want to   put a tenant in send them a Christmas card every 
year and then make 100 grand profit that is far   far better for me than chasing tenant through the 
courts renting arrears fixing things i'm making   money i'm doing a really good thing because this 
is a lovely family home and a lovely family will   buy it in seven years time so it's a roof over 
somebody's head that they otherwise wouldn't have   and i'm making underground in the process 
and okay i showed you an example here where   we actually purchased the property we did it up 
we turned it to a four bed house you don't need   to do all that stuff you don't because you could 
just go my kids by the way this is what they call   it i'll just explain to you you could just go to 
the house shop because if we buy so many houses   jenny and judo youngsters they don't call it the 
estate agent they call it the house shop so you   could just go to the house shop don't do 
anything clever don't do anything you know   advanced that would need training just go and 
buy a property for quarter of a million quid so   yes you've got to put down 50 000 pounds but in 
seven years time you've tripled it so instead of   fifty grand you've now got 150 grand and 
now instead of one house go and buy three   just recycle that cash and buy three more anyway 
let's wrap this up hope you like the number   crunching room we'll be back here soon and that 
my friends is how you make money with rent to buy Oh sorry i forgot that's worst case because that 
assumes you don't put the rent up for seven years   and that's quite unlikely isn't it but you'd agree 
that at the start anyway speaking of up okay and   that my friends is a wrap one project dead simple 
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If you want to sit back on your backside and 
moan about the nine to five job that you've got   carry on. 66 grand over seven years 
that's more than tripling your cash   good deal how many Bazoomers have you just put 
in your pocket. Further profit of 78 thousand   nine hundred and eighty two pounds BOOM! Hello there and welcome to this week's edition 
of money matters because after all money   does matter! How would you like to discover as we 
go through this video together, how you can make a   hundred thousand pounds in just one deal? So we'll 
go through the amount of money you would need   what guarantees you've got but the thing that 
i'm talking about this week is rent to buy.   I think this is the most little known and best 
kept secret in the property industry there's so   many challenges out there for both tenants and 
landlords and very often it's tenants against   landlords one get set against the other so let 
me just give you an example of what i'm talking   about.

Especially during pandemic and you know 
lockdowns everything else people really struggled   and i get that i'm very very sympathetic as a 
landlord to tenants problem but if a tenant gets   to the point where they can't pay in a normal 
world. In my world, what i think would be a   good solution would be the tenant goes to see 
the landlord they have a discussion they agree   you know a payment plan or give it so many months 
or whatever, but at some point decent human beings   don't want to freeload on other people so they 
would agree right well can you give me a month   i'm trying my hardest, i'm going to get another 
job or whatever or my mum's going to lend me some   money or whatever it might be and i'll get you 
your rent one way or another. But tell you what,   if i can't do that a month from now i'll just 
move out. Now that in my world that would be   a normal good conversation and i'll tell 
you why that conversation doesn't happen,   because if a tenant did that according to 
the rules according to the legal system   according to the benefit system they'd have 
just made themselves voluntarily homeless.   Now that to me is completely absurd they didn't 
get themselves made redundant on purpose they   didn't want to not pay the rent but if you speak 
to shelter or if you speak to the local council   they will tell you stay there until that landlord 
evicts you because only then will be you'll be   entitled to benefits.

So for me that is complete 
and utterly mad but that is the fundamental reason   why landlords and tenants are at loggerheads. If 
you said to a tenant what's your biggest problem   they'd probably say the landlord and if you said 
to the landlord what's your biggest problem they'd   probably save the tenant but it's because of the 
system. So how about we change the system so here   is the new system the rent to buy system instead 
of renting it to a regular tenant you actually   rent it to a tenant who's got aspirations of 
owning their own home and they enter into a   contract with you for seven years and i'll explain 
why seven years shortly and they pay a normal rent   over that seven years but also during that seven 
years they pay a little bit extra every month.   It's called, we call it a top-up that goes into a 
separate client account so you the landlord can't   touch it but over the seven years they save up a 
ten percent deposit and they then buy the house   or flat from you and the figure we use for the 
annual increase is the Rich's royal institute   charts fairs recommended an average which is 
four percent each year they're in the property   the property goes up in value normally and over 
a seven year period it's probably going to go up   by four percent compounded seven times which is 
roughly 31 so it's almost a third so if you had a   300 000 pound house they would buy it from you for 
roughly 400 000 pounds if you had 100 000 pound   house it will be 130 000 pounds that is the core 
that is the nuts and bolts of it but what we're   going to do now is we're going to look at this 
from everybody's perspective from the landlord's   perspective from the tenant's perspective from the 
estate agent's perspective because there's there's   very very few estate agents in the in the whole 
of the country that do this and i mean the whole   of the uk when i say the whole of the country and 
finally we're going to look at some actual numbers   for a hundred thousand pound profit or just a 
little bit over a hundred thousand pound profit   from one property and i think you're going to like 
it so strap yourself in enjoy the ride here we go   down the ramp to buy roller coaster okay so let's 
go look at this from a landlord's perspective i   want to introduce you to a good friend of mine 
this is Karen bock.

She inherited some money   and she wanted to make sure that she made the 
money work for her as opposed to her having to   work for the money so listen in i think you're 
going to like this. Hi i'm Karen and i'm here at   touchstone today to go and view my first property 
that i've bought and it's for a rent to buy and   i'm really excited about going to see this one 
now my mother died earlier on this year and   when my sister and i inherited their property 
which we sold for a substantial amount of money   i needed something to be doing with the money 
not just sticking at a bank and leaving it to   rot so i'd often thought about doing property 
and was talking to Gordie about sourcing the   property for me which she did we went to look 
at this property and i said yes straight away   it was a lovely house three-bedroom property only 
needs a tiny little bit of work doing to it which   is a great thumbs up so i didn't have to do loads 
of work put an offer in and they that offer was   accepted and we're just waiting now for it all 
to go through with this solicitors and everything   massive wise to why i'm doing this which is my son 
he's 16 and he's disabled he doesn't walk he never   will walk and unfortunately i know our care system 
so well that i know he'll always he doesn't ever   want to be what i call a wage slave i don't want 
him to be a wage slave either don't fall on these.

I prefer to buy to let because once i've bought 
once i've put the people in who are going to   rent it it's basically their home so they will 
eventually own it i don't need to do anything it   takes out all the hassle of having a buy to let 
of thinking oh if they broke a tap or i've got   to come and fix and break tire i've got to find a 
plumber no it's their problem not mine so they pay   a normal rent and a top up which goes towards it's 
paid them deposit for their mortgage if they walk   away from that that's that one is mine plus the 
fact if they default on their rent i've got top up   i can take that money the rent money from them so 
it's a no-brainer it's a win-win all the way down   the line it's lovely i like it i think someone's 
going to make somebody a really nice home   really nice home it's such a lovely area as well 
it's got everything shops around the corner nice   small area activities for kids to do you know 
so but i would say to anybody that is looking   to do something with money if they have to 
come into money don't just stick it in a bank   make it work for you go and get a look go and have 
a go and you meet so many nice people they're all   on the same wavelength as you you don't get looked 
at like an idiot what are you buying property for   first oh no buy property it's you know why not 
it's there to be had if you want to sit back on   your backside and learn about the nine to five 
job that you've got carry on because i want out   of mine okay so how about that what do you think 
to Karen and her journey that's exciting stuff   isn't it so there's the landlord let's now go and 
meet a lovely couple with some lovely children uh   so let's go and hear from lee and Ashlynn of some 
rent by tenants but Gordie and myself we took him   a little bottle of champagne say welcome to your 
new home and this is what they had to say about   rent to buy hello and welcome to Rossington so the 
two of us have come out to welcome a new tenant   who just moved in here yesterday wow they got 
this lovely new home and they've agreed to talk   to us about what differences made to them i'm 
looking forward to it and to welcome them to   their new home because they will be buying this 
see you inside i'd like to introduce you to lee   and Ashlynn so you've got you've got three lovely 
baby and you've got a fourth one on the way yes feels amazing yeah yeah process was fairly 
easy right yeah it's been really easy the only   stressful part was moving well yeah what's 
this little one called angelica angelica   you're here you're looking good now yeah yeah 
does it feel like a family home yet already   yes just after like one night i think 
it's because we all muddled in we all   pitched in and we all did a bit even 
the kids what's the last few years.

Yeah it's always been down to landlords selling 
houses from underneath yeah but well you've   given us an opportunity but i love doing this i 
love doing the we call it going to buy yeah rent i think that was our issue having just put a bit 
of money aside as well as paying the rent and   the bills at least this way it's all done in one 
move and you don't miss it because it's not there   we're not very good savers are we if we do 
save it's like something breaks down or the   kids need someone needs to pay for school trip 
or whatever so you're dipping in and dipping in   so somebody out there watching this that fancy 
the idea breaks by what advice would you give them   do it do it do it yeah i think that's 
it that's as simple as that just what a fabulous family i mean they were so 
delighted to be in that house and uh you didn't   see in the video but they actually had a couple 
of dogs as well so there are all sorts of issues   with with previous tenancies that rent buy just 
ticks all of their boxes next up in this quickfire   series through what is rent to buy let's go meet 
the agent so let's go meet my friend business   partner gordy duffield and let's find out what 
kind of properties do you need special mortgages   paperwork you know all that stuff over to gauri 
okay so i would like to introduce you to my   good friend and business partner gordy very good 
very good so gaudy you run diamond estates yeah   and one of the parts of diamond states is rent to 
buy why do you think rent to buy is a good thing   for land or dental okay i think in property what 
we've seen over the years is tenants v landlords   it's always been in tennessee landlords send a few 
landlords and i truly believe this is a complete   win-win for both parties is there anything wrong 
with us making money and helping other people no   i don't believe so so i think the big thing is for 
rent to buy for landlords is to secure income for   a many periods of years and for the tenants to get 
an opportunity what they made never had before an   opportunity to own their own home that's cool yeah 
couldn't agree more if we're going to try and help   both parties here so you know tenants landlords 
they'll be watching this video so if a landlord   wants to get into rent to buy yeah what sort of 
what's the ideal property uh good question um i   mean just to be clear we filled one bed flats we 
filled seven bed houses we filled forty thousand   pound house we filled one point two million pound 
houses but i think the ideal property that we look   at is a two three bedroom house um either a terra 
seven detached or detached that's the kind of idea   two three bed house does the garden matter um not 
massively what we are seeing since the covered as   gardens are becoming more popular uh what about 
parking garages anything like that again doesn't   really matter on street pack it's fine so what 
you're really talking about these vast majority   of properties are probably going to be suitable 
correct but what i'm getting a feel for is that   probably a studio flat is the least suitable yes 
it's not somebody's forever home no no which parts   of the country do you cover which parts of the 
country don't we cover maybe one everywhere all   over so top of scotland to the bottom of england 
we've got stuff right up in neon which is stayed   on vanessa and we've got stuff right down in 
portsmouth um all right so almost anywhere in   the uk or anywhere in the uk and the vast majority 
types of property yeah what about from a tenant's   perspective where do you find tenants from are 
there many of them in fact let me change the   question okay have you got more tenants or have 
you got more property more tenants more tenants   not how many more tenants thousands more 
settlements so that there's thousands thousands   of people that want to buy their own property 
correct and when when people come through with   diamond estates and say i've heard about this rent 
to buy thing or whatever do they actually believe   it or do they think what the hell is going on it 
takes some convincing we had to really adjust this   at the very start as well because we had to figure 
out what they didn't understand about it but no i   think uh once is explained clearly to them yep 
they get it it's pretty simple you know it's   pretty simple well it is essentially yeah rent for 
the seven years save up a deposit and buy that's there has to be downsides what's the downside 
here um downsides it's funny this because i don't   know if i see this as the downside but if you're a 
landlord and the property does increase more than   what the pre-agreed price was um you'll lose out 
on the money in the sale price but i always ask   the question would you be happy with seven years 
guaranteed right and an increase in 31.6 in seven   years well the answer is yes yeah and so i don't 
really see that as a downside but i suppose that   is yeah i do get that i get that from property 
investors because Warren Buffett obviously not   really a property investor is a stocks & shares 
investor but he says his favourite holding period   is forever yeah and there's many landlords that 
just don't like the idea of selling correct yeah   but i get and i normally counter that by saying 
well if you've if you've got one property and it   goes up in value by thirty percent of seven years 
you can take that the original equity you had in   your original house you can take the sale price 
yeah and you can turn one house into two typically   so yeah what about from the tenants perspective i 
mean i guess there will be downsides i mean i know   one of our rented by tenants discovered um after 
a couple of years that the property just wasn't   right for them and they left yeah i think it's 
something to do with the relationship or something   yeah but they had to walk away from two years top 
up money yeah that is the day downside people's   circumstances do change uh and with regards to 
the contract they are contractually obliged to   stay there for the period of the rental term if 
they leave early they lose their top up but that   is fully explained to them beforehand they are 
adults so they understand that when they're when   they're moving in what i want to do is i just 
want to ask you a dead simple question with one   hundred thousand pound house you know around here 
you can still buy a house hundred thousand pounds   yeah with a hundred thousand pound house how 
much money realistically do you think a landlord   could earn over the seven year period from the 
hundred thousand pound down towards what their   total income stream is going to be if you take 
a four percent average which is what we take   and four percent times four percent 
point four percent seven times   uh works out at thirty one point something percent 
so let's call it yeah thirty one percent yep   thirty one percent on a hundred thousand pound 
house is obviously thirty one thousand pounds yeah   so that's your capital increase what's the monthly 
rent on this one you're talking about um it sets   600 pounds per month 600 600 a month so if we 
then say that all your bills and the mortgage   and everything else it's not even going to be 200 
credit but less than 200 so say 650 650 650.

So   let's say 450 quid times 10 it's four and a 
half thousand uh so that'll be 5 400. yeah so   i reckon let's keep it simple make five five grand 
a month on the rent five grand a year a month yeah   that's gonna be 35 000 pounds rental profit 
right and 31 000 pound capital profits it's   a human calculator isn't he jesus he 
said it was a simple question as well   66 grams here's the question landlords out there 
oh potential androids out there would you be happy   with sixty six thousand pound profit from one 
hundred thousand pound house because if you're   going to buy a hundred thousand pound house 
you can still get eight percent buy more yeah   so you'd have to come up with 20 grand yeah 100 
so how about that everybody you put in 20 grand   your 20 grand could be returned to you with an 
extra 66 grand over seven years so that's more   than tripling your cash good deal you might be 
out there thinking jesus i've got some rent i've   got some bicycle properties i want them to rent to 
buy it or i'm going to go and buy something yeah   what should they do give me a phone okay simply 
so uh so here's the details for diamond is his   phone number here's the website address so just 
crack on and uh get all the goldie oh or one of   the team yeah definitely i mean just a word of 
warning it's absolutely fine speaking of gordy   or diamond uh but there's actually very very few 
agents that do this isn't there there's a couple   agents to do we're by far the biggest and best 
that do do so yeah so if you're interested you   want to learn more crack on pick up the phone 
send an email whatever thank you very much   thank you take care thank you boom all right so 
thank you gory that was fascinating wasn't it and   something gory and i just checked with him 
afterwards just to give bit extra information   last week diamond estates took on 17 more rent to 
buy properties and most of them are filled already   so imagine if you'd you'd been that landlord 
that gave diamond estates your property last week   probably have a tenant in it already so 17 
a week we're taking on at the moment there's   a massive demand for this anyway enough of 
the chit chat and meeting everyone let's go   to the numbers room and crunch some numbers okay 
so welcome to the numbers room this is the numbers   board but before we get to that look at this 
house so this is the house that i'm gonna use   uh just walk through the numbers with you 
on uh so this is um elm green um conisbourgh   and it's a property i'll show you all figures 
but it's a it's a three bed house that we're   turning to a four bed house so as you've heard 
three four bed detached houses with gardens   absolutely ideal for rent to buy so let's get into 
the numbers i want to give you the full numbers so   this is actually a combination strategy that i'm 
giving you now this is buy refurbish remortgage   and then rent to buy on the end so quickly 
we purchased this one for 163 thousand pounds   that was purchase price on this one i had 
to get all the the legals uh the refurb and   everything else and i was putting it all in one 
number the total total total was thirty five   thousand pounds all up we're into this property 
for what's that 188 thousand okay so that's the   total cost of buying it next what's it worth 
after the refurbs we've turned it from a three   bed to a four bit we just rearranged some of the 
walls upstairs it was actually quite cheap to do   boom it goes and re-values at 250 000 
pounds which is sweet now if you want to   you can you can put 80 percent um vitamin mortgage 
on that so 80 of that is 200 000 pounds still   quite affordable mortgages but we've only spent 
188 000 pounds so end of stage one we have got   a house with none of our own money in it and 12 
000 pounds catching happy days everyone happy   with that so that is part one you the landlord 
if it is you the landlord you've got a 250   000 pound house and that's the starting price 
okay you've got 200 000 pound mortgage on it 250   so in addition to the money you've pulled out 
you've also got 50 000 pounds of equity in the   property so along comes a tenant buyer and says 
i would like to rent that property for the short   term and i would like to purchase it in the long 
term and just to remind you the two main reasons   why tenant buyers don't buy their own houses 
straight off the bat is they've either got some   sort of poor credit history uh CCJ something 
like that and believe it or not 25 of the uk   population is impacted by some sort of credit 
issue 25 and the other main reason is they got a   deposit so we need to look at two things how does 
it impact what all the numbers for the tenants and   what's the numbers to the landlord so first up 
you've decided to sell it in seven years time   so one two three four five six seven 
years time and each year rick's rolling   chief chart surveyor said you should assume 
that house prices increased by four percent okay so the department of hard toms has 
been hard at work and drumroll please   here we go the sale price will be 328 982 pounds which is a profit a further profit 
of 78 982 pounds boom but that's not the end of it   that's just your capital profit on the sale of the 
property and don't forget if you want to take 12   grand out so you haven't actually got any of your 
own money in here so you've already got money out   plus further capital profit seven years 
time of three hundred and twenty eight   thousand nine hundred and eighty two minus two 
hundred and fifty thousand pounds seventy eight   thousand nine hundred and eighty two pounds 
happy days you know i said that's not all of   it that's just the capital profit well let's add 
the rent shall we so let's move our money up here   boom still makes me happy every time i see that 
and now let's add the rent profit the rent for   this particular house in this particular 
area is one thousand one hundred pounds   per month we're going to look at two separate 
things now we're gonna look at what do you   the landlord make money-wise out of it and what 
does it actually cost the tenant to buy it okay   so let's do the what do you make out of it 
first in fact no let's have a look at how   much does the tenant actually pay for us because 
that's nice and easy they pay the 1100 per month   but they also need a top up the top hub goes 
towards the deposit so they can buy it so they   need to have a 10 deposit so they can buy the 
property in seven years time to be safe let's   round that up to 330 000 so they need a 33 000 
pound deposit we can divide that by 84.

Why 84   well that's seven years times 12 months so if they 
contribute in monthly in even amounts it's that   figure divided by 84 so get the trusty calculator 
out 392 pounds and 85 pence so let's round it up   to that the top up will be 300 and let's call it 
395 because you don't want a silly figure like   392 pounds and 86 pence or at least i wouldn't on 
top of their uh rent money of 1100 they're paying   roughly an extra 400 a month and in seven years 
time they've got 33 000 pounds because this top up doesn't actually go into your bank account 
because that wouldn't be right or fair or ethical   actually goes into a client account which means 
unless they breach their terms and conditions or   don't pay the mortgage or something you can't 
touch it so as long as they honour their side   of the contract you've got on your side of the 
contract and they get 33 000 pounds cash back   at the end of the seven year period they take 
that and then they go and buy the house okay   so hope that's nice and clear so let's wipe that 
slate clean shall we what do you the landlord get   because i said right beginning of this you can 
make more than a hundred grand in one div you've   got to ignore the top-up because that's not your 
money unless they mess you about so you're getting   1100 a month now we said didn't we on this one 
that it was a 200 000 pound mortgage so what's   the interest payment our 200 pound mortgage well 
interest only is normal for buy to let so we've   got 200 000 like that and i'm going to say we 
said this was an 80 mortgage so i've actually   looked just before i recorded this at yeah these 
sort of price comparison websites for mortgages   and it was just a little bit less than 
but i'm going to call it four percent   200 000 times four percent is eight thousand 
pounds a year so if we divide that by 12   that is oh that's a scary number that's the number 
of the beast look at that this is the beast of a   project 666.

666. do i need a cross or something 
when i write that number down is it scary isn't it   so that's your mortgage what else do you 
need to pay well uh you need to pay insurance   and landlord insurance you know building insurance 
is probably going to be about 20 quid something   like that so let's just make it a national number 
if i put 24 there that's going to round it up   and what other costs have you got well here's the 
great bit yeah normally i'd be saying oh you need   to put aside 20 for you know voids and maintenance 
and all that but you don't because it's a rent to   buy so all the money you would normally have 
to spend on the property you know paint it fix   the boiler if it breaks all that stuff well the 
tenants doing that because that it's their home   or it will be in seven years time oh it's their 
home now for goodness sake because this that's   what the contract says it's binding as long 
as they do what they say they're going to do   so 24 quid for insurance now because 
rent to buys are so simple to manage   many people would manage it themselves but let's 
say worst case you actually employed an agent to   do it you negotiate with the agent you said i'll 
pay you 10 to normal rate but it's so easy bloody   bloody blah so let's call it 100 pounds so this 
is for the letting agent yeah you know for letting   fees let's add all that up 790 pounds so your 
total costs are 790 pounds so your profit per   month you've got your 1100 pounds we need to take 
off 790 pounds which makes 310 pounds per month   profit what i now need to do to get to my seven 
years profit is very very simple i need to take   my 310 pounds multiply it by 84 which is 7 years 
and 12 months which gives me a further 26 and 40   pounds now let's go for the grand total shall we 
are you ready for the big reveal the grand total   how many Bazoomers have you just put in your 
pocket how much extra cash have you got on your   hip will your trousers fall down these are all 
important questions to ask because look at this   boom grand total 105 022 of your english 
pounds well British pounds actually   so just to go through that slowly 
so we all explain all you understand   so we started off at 250 000 pounds didn't we so 
it's not fair you actually get 50 000 pounds cash   more than this but you could have sold it at the 
start for 250 000 pounds couldn't you so we're   talking about extra profit from rent to buy the 
fair way to do it is not to deduct the mortgage   but to deduct the start value so we've agreed the 
sale price with the tenant 328 982 pounds that's   four percent four percent four percent seven 
times the start value was a quarter million so   the extra money you've made because of rent to 
buy is 78 982 so it's just that take away that   and then we said per month you make 310 pound 
profit well if you do that for 7 years 12 months   in a year obviously that's where the 26 040 comes 
from add them together socks off go and catch your   socks they're flying around the living room 105 
022 pounds with zero aggravation because i've done   about you many people i talk to a lot of people 
that's what i do i'm a professional speaker i talk   a lot of people tell me that time is the most 
valuable asset they'll agree with yeah yeah yeah   time's like a favourable asset pool and then they 
want to micromanage everything i don't i want to   put a tenant in send them a Christmas card every 
year and then make 100 grand profit that is far   far better for me than chasing tenant through the 
courts renting arrears fixing things i'm making   money i'm doing a really good thing because this 
is a lovely family home and a lovely family will   buy it in seven years time so it's a roof over 
somebody's head that they otherwise wouldn't have   and i'm making underground in the process 
and okay i showed you an example here where   we actually purchased the property we did it up 
we turned it to a four bed house you don't need   to do all that stuff you don't because you could 
just go my kids by the way this is what they call   it i'll just explain to you you could just go to 
the house shop because if we buy so many houses   jenny and judo youngsters they don't call it the 
estate agent they call it the house shop so you   could just go to the house shop don't do 
anything clever don't do anything you know   advanced that would need training just go and 
buy a property for quarter of a million quid so   yes you've got to put down 50 000 pounds but in 
seven years time you've tripled it so instead of   fifty grand you've now got 150 grand and 
now instead of one house go and buy three   just recycle that cash and buy three more anyway 
let's wrap this up hope you like the number   crunching room we'll be back here soon and that 
my friends is how you make money with rent to buy Oh sorry i forgot that's worst case because that 
assumes you don't put the rent up for seven years   and that's quite unlikely isn't it but you'd agree 
that at the start anyway speaking of up okay and   that my friends is a wrap one project dead simple 
hundred thousand pound profit if you like the   idea of rent to buy and you haven't quite go go 
watch it again with the best 15 minutes you ever   invest in yourself let us know how we can help 
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Hey everybody welcome in on this snowy snowy Wednesday wherever you’re joining us from let us know where you joining us from today hey everybody welcome in to the investing in real estate show today we’re gonna have some fun talking about how to retire at 40 how to retire by 40 Sean says hello from Brooklyn New York how much snow are you getting out there Sean we get this massive nor’easter once again and once again so the kids are off school just I’m over it I am over it I know there’s gonna be people are there I’m right in here and say they’re there joining us from there out in California and they’re living living large yeah Aaron is running us from Miami Florida there you go Wong from Miami thanks so much rub it in rub it in rub it in everybody so we’re gonna get this show started in just about three minutes South Africa Indianapolis Moses welcome Pottstown you’re getting hit with some snow right now Matthew Bishop Lakeland Florida hey Matthew yeah I guess California you guys are getting hit with some crazy stuff out there today too huh yeah they cancelled school last night I don’t know I you know growing up I don’t ever remember them canceling school like the night before did you guys ever have that growing up it was like he’d wake up and he would sit and listen to the radio and you would wait you know I was in Pennsylvania I would be all be waiting to listen for our school if it was canceled I’d be in one-hour delay a two-hour delay and you were hoping that they would cancel it but I never had the night before they send out a text message letting you know that hey your school was cancelled and that was never the case for me never never did you do all right we’re gonna get started in just a moment here it’s gonna pull up this today we’re gonna talk about how to retire by 40 and we’ll start here in just about one minute one minute one minute Jerome aramid says hey a guy you talked to me more than two weeks you never came back to me you can take care of this later I know you’re alive nobody emailed me the first appointment Jerome who did you talk to on my team let me know and we’ve got some people in from our team right here in the chat thread as well we can Mike you know a lot of times people will send follow-up emails it goes to your spam folder sometimes people when they initially signup for phone calls with our team they put in the wrong phone number and then they later writes it well I put the wrong phone number in and so our team will be calling and they can’t get ahold of you so I apologize for that and Rudy Rudy please check your spam folder please please please because our team is very good about follow-up and we have hundreds of clients around the world so I apologize for that you know because if someone sends you a PDF it might go right to your spam folder and then you’re like oh I never emailed me just check your junk folder and who are you talking to please let us know we’ll make sure we get you all squared away we have a waiting list for people to get on the phone with us for like a few weeks so I don’t ever want anyone to feel like we don’t get proper follow-up from our team that’s very important so I’ve got our team right now who is in our chat thread we’ll go through and make sure that we get you all taken care of so I apologize for that all right so we are live it is it is a.m.

And we’re gonna kick off the show after the show I’m gonna do you know to talk about this article talk about how to retire at 40 and then after the show we’ll kind of open it up for a few minutes of Q&A if that works for all of you and we’ll just kind of answer some real estate questions some of the things you’re struggling with you’re hoping to achieve and we’ll talk we’ll do that all right Forrest wants to knows are still owners software coming out for Morrison fest yes indeed in fact we’ve been working on it for for since like August it’s all custom it’s been a lot of tweaking we want it to just be perfect Peter Cook says I’ve had very good follow-up thank you Peter appreciate it and James Frederico o1r from our team is right in here he says hey Jerome I got you all reach back out to you and take care of you good good good all right so we’re gonna get started here and we’re going to talk about this in a second so first so again at the end of the show we’ll take some QA and we’ll do that as well let me just get this all dialed in we’re recording we got the audio up and running is everything sound ok guys you guys can hear me give me a thumbs up you guys are all good Brandon yes absolutely because some of those beat class properties you’re asking about the verb method absolutely because you know buying those 60 70 thousand dollar homes those the banks love they’re able to do you know easy refinances on those because there’s easy comps to pull in the neighborhood because there’s retail sales so I would stay away from like the 3040 thousand dollar stuff if you want to really do like a solid brr-brr method stuff if that’s what you’re looking for all right sounds good alright so we’re gonna get started all right all right and let’s get this show started all right today on today’s show we’re talking about how to retire by 40 a news article from the mainstream media it’s kind of total garbage that’s today’s show let’s dive into it hey everyone I’m Clayton Morris longtime real estate investor founder of Morris invest if you’re new to the channel thank you so much for joining us and subscribing I hope that you’re a subscriber because there’s where we talk about passive income building legacy wealth for you and your family that’s the goal right and the vehicle that we use is buy and hold real estate but I don’t care about the real estate right I don’t care about the four walls and a roof I just bought 15 houses this week that we’re about to rehab okay I don’t care what they look like because once we get them it doesn’t matter what I’m buying as a tax shelter and that’s what you should be focusing on buying a tax shelter that’s what this show is all about on today’s show I want to talk about how to retire by 40 and I want to preface this by saying that I got this from an email from a listener a viewer of our show who is getting involved in real estate investing Jesse Daley sent me this email and he said hey Clayton I hope you’re doing well man I thought you’d find this article interesting especially how the writer literally doesn’t mention anything about investing in real estate there’s only a one quick mention of a condo adding to net worth and nothing else in this article I’m so happy that your podcast teaches people how to truly invest properly and retire by the age of 40 this they should have interviewed you for this article so thank you Jesse I promised I would give you a shout out here on the show and I want to go into this article so again I have lampooned some of these CNNMoney articles over the past few years have done shows about these things because I just find them ridiculous I find them ridiculous that they’re telling people to invest in their 401k and then that’s the way that you build retirement that’s the way that you’re able to retire by 40 years old I mean how many people are you know you just like a show of hands you’re listening right now how many of you think you could actually retire by 40 years old just with your 401k of course you can it’s ridiculous the average 401k retirement in this country guess what according to Time magazine is 90 thousand dollars can you retire on that no way so I want to go through this article because it’s a lot of fun and Jesse sent it to me so these are tips from CNN money on how to retire by forty three proven tips three proven tips so let’s go Chris reading isn’t your average retiree he said goodbye to his working years at 37 and is now financially independent living his life on his own terms that’s great now he had 4500 dollars in debt and when he started working he got through all of that he finally found a well-paying job working cyber security took out a mortgage bought a condo and financed a BMW okay alright took out a mortgage on a home bought a condo and financed a BMW on our way to success but then he started to wonder is this all there is he finally said I can’t do this for 40 years in his late 20s he started searching for alternatives and he read the book your money your life by Joe da Menendez and Vicki Robin and he said look there’s other ways of becoming financially independent so he then felt that he had enough to live the rest of his life on his savings and investments without having to work again it took two more years of showing up the cubicle for him to be sure than a 37 he finally walked away so what did he do okay here were his strategies here where his strategies for becoming financially independent and retiring at 40 years old number one save more save more okay so his strategy according to the CNN Money article is cut he cut back on going out to dinner and he cut back on buying lattes so he just started saving more really so let me get this straight that’s the way that you can sustain yourself for the rest of your life by retiring at 40 years old from your job it’s just having enough in the bank you think that you’re gonna have if the average 401k retirement is ninety thousand dollars can you really live the lifestyle that you want so now you’re cutting back on dinners in order to save some money you’re not buying coffee so what Natalie and I’ve talked about here on the show repeatedly is the idea of not having to shrink your lifestyle why not find out what your freedom number is using real estate find out what your freedom number is and actually have enough passive income every month coming in the cash flows you’re creating a tax shelter for yourself and enabling you to live the life that you want so you can’t go buy a latte I find that ridiculous you know David Bach wrote about that in his book the automatic millionaire a years ago and look if you’re $40,000 in debt yes maybe not buying a five-dollar coffee every day is probably not a smart strategy you know also if you’re a smoker you know spending ten bucks a day on cigarettes or whatever it’s probably you know not a smart strategy if you want to claw your way out of debt I get that part of it but as a way of sustaining yourself and retiring at forty years old just saving more savers are losers that money in a bank account is doing nothing for you what about buying performing assets that are actually producing cash flow I mean come on so when he says look where people get into trouble with savings that they think they have to use reusable toilet paper and eat chicken broth but real basically you just you’ll never spend zero dollars find a level of living that you’re come with and work on earning more without increasing your expenses so he’s just saying earn more save more cut out lattes and you can retire at 40 I don’t buy that for a second number to earn more okay that’s his second tip earn more great so let’s save more and earn more again a paycheck job the tax code is written for wealthy people the tax code is written for entrepreneurs who own businesses who own real estate that’s what the tax code is written for it’s not written for a w-2 employee so earn more so what he says is your actual jobs only part of your work in order to earn the kind of money where you can live on only half or less of your salary so take that extra money socket away that’s what he’s saying so work harder right work for a paycheck get taxed as like in the highest tax bracket by the federal government right because we know that paycheck employees under the new tax code or hurt the worst he says this career-boosting work can include earning advanced degrees oh that’s great so his other bit of advice on this is go out and spend a hundred thousand dollars on getting an advanced degree so go get your master’s degree that’s only what a hundred thousand dollars that’s only a hundred thousand dollars right just go get it a master’s degree so that’s smart so save more earn more by spending more on getting an advanced degree or certifications and then that way you’ll have people who will look at you more favorably in the office and be able to elevate you higher that’s great so it’s important understand the weak areas and he says look I finding mentors okay that’s good yes definitely finding mentors as a very smart move finding mentors who can help propel you and then number three he says invest more so he says the most powerful mechanism for investment right now it’s built into their job it’s the 401k invest in your 401 K and a two or three percent return contributing at the level where you get the employer match is a must and that’s your biggest benefit and that’s how you can retire by 40 that’s the article unbelievable so okay ridiculous right that’s how you could retire at 40 no no that’s not how you can retire it 40 and that’s not how you could live comfortably and live the life that you want and be able to produce legacy wealth for your family for the rest of your life so he’s now retired he’s living off of savings but he’s got no assets that are actually performing for him for the rest of his life he’s got a V BMW that he bought financed and he has a mortgage on a condo that he lives in he has no performing assets that is not financial intelligence any way you slice it wouldn’t it have made more sense instead of saving that money while he was working for that cybersecurity company to take that money and invest it in real estate by a performing asset that cash flows that’s how you control and move your family forward that’s how you can build true legacy wealth for you and your family but actually taking money and buying a BMW buying a liability remember all you need to remember is if you’re buying liabilities a liability is something that does not produce cashflow now if he bought that BMW and used it as an uber driver that was producing cash flow that’s a different scenario or if he rented out that BMW that’s a different scenario but I love these I love these articles and again this is all sort of couched around the idea of the mainstream media right the mainstream media wants you to believe that a paycheck employer job is the way to go that getting a 401 K having their company sort of automatically do it for you because you’re too dumb to do it yourself have them handle it have them streamline it and that’s how you that’s how you have a strong safety net we’ve been trained to believe that being secure is having a paycheck job you know again I come back to the I keep seeing this commercial and I’m sure so many of you have seen this commercial over the past few weeks I saw it first during the World Series and they continue to run this stupid thing where it shows a couple you know they’re in their late 60’s and they’re sitting there with a how it’s a Merrill Lynch advisor and the Merrill Lynch adviser says well it looks like the plan worked and you’re gonna be able to have that retirement you wanted and I looked at you look on the iPad app that they’re handing to the couple and he’s like honey we did it we can do it we can live that life we wanted retirement and it shows that their income is enough they’re gonna have about seventy thousand dollars to work with like if you look at if you actually look at the numbers on that screen seventy thousand dollars so now they’re almost at retirement and then the next clip it shows them in a boat with their granddaughter right there sailing off into the sunset like some small little boat with their granddaughter and the little girl says aye aye captain you know and she she’s driving the boat so this is their retirement they finally did it right they had a wait till they’re 70 to buy a boat and to be able to sleep in and spend a little bit of time with her grandkids be all because they had their month their money managed by a financial advisor that was taken out big fees and investing in a stock market and not investing in real estate and cash flowing assets so there you go that’s my frustration there you go that’s my my little my little two cents my little rant about these types of mainstream media articles and when you see them on TV just roll your eyes think about it for a second saving more earning more get an advanced degree spend $100,000 on a master’s degree and then use a 401k that’s how you’re able to retire at 40 that is total garbage that is total garbage unless maybe the guy wants to go live in like Thailand by himself with no kids and he wants to live like in a hut somewhere for the rest of his life and he doesn’t care about actually having any income or cash to be able to buy anything or any food or live the life that he wants I find it to be total garbage I’d love to hear your comments and your reactions to this please send them to us and I really thank you so much so that’s gonna do it for that and thank you so much for subscribing to the show I really appreciate it this is the investing in real estate show you can please subscribe share it with your friends and and you know please go out there take action become a real estate investor because I believe it’s the number one way to build wealth we’ll see you next time everyone all right now with that that’s the show so anyone who wanted to get just the shortened version of that but hey now we’re gonna open up this agree to some Q&A here in the show we got so much so I saw so many chat threads coming through here asking questions alright so fire them up here alright alright Joel says I’ve also had an email a few times hit reschedule my call but no response and said ok Joel no worries we’ll get you all straightened out I apologize like if people miss their phone appointments cuz like I said we Deanna with our team we have like calls are booked out I think about two weeks and so if we call them like goes to voicemail and then we’re trying to reschedule it so we really try to make sure we can get on the get on the same get on the same on the same page Jinger I’m sorry again what’s going on Jinger we’ll get to the bottom of this so I’m gonna make a list of anyone who didn’t get a call back so I apologize alright so can you guys tell me Arum says Glen and Nicole from your team have been great awesome ok so we will dial some of the stuff in ginger and I’m sorry I will get some of these people on your on your team to make sure we get it all taken care of thank you guys let’s see all right you know I’m glad you’re not upset no I just you know we if sometimes emails get back and forth and we’re trying to make sure that everyone gets taken care of okay are Tuffle get you back on your property okay let’s the ad tapper says what do you think about joint ventures they have the money I do appraisals marketing and brother does the renovations hey jayvees are great right you need to build a great team for real estate investing that’s very important you have to have a great team to do real estate investing well Kelly just uh Kelly Cheatham says I want to hear more about your program great just booked a call with our team Kelly and Morris invest comm we’re doing some great things and I’m really excited about some of the new properties that that we purchased that we’re about to do we’ve already designed our contractors to dive in and start rehabbing see Charlie 18 says our new Hara Sean wants to know one of the price of the new house is being built our new houses the three-bedroom two-bathroom right around seventy seventy thousand okay Charlie eighteen I’m gonna answer this question how does it LLC save you on your taxes on your rental how does it LLC save you taxes on your rental properties a lot of the stuff I’ve been reading times about pass-through income I never thought I thought that that was taxed the same way as a sole proprietor yes however remember that under the new tax law as a pass-through entity as a pastor entity you’re now getting an additional 20% deduction 20% and remember when you have your your properties in an LLC you’re being taxed as a business and you’re able then to depreciate spread that money over all those other your w-2 income and those other things so I’ve just an all series of videos on understanding tax shelters and remember what you’re buying as a tax shelter so forget about buying real estate you know I have talked about Lane I like for repairs so repairs add to your tax shelter helps mitigate your overall cash flow because remember what you’re buying in the beginning in a 3-stage is a real estate investing right buy own and cashflow what you’re buying in the beginning you’re adding to your net worth so I don’t care about the cashflow necessarily until years later but you’re buying and adding to your net worth you’re creating a tax shelter for yourself you’re able to mitigate your w2 income you’re able to offset all of those things so I would love to hear what you guys thought about today’s show and the article please let me know I’d love to hear you which you you know what you thought about that Kelly are speaking of the computer program Oh Kelly yeah we’re building a personal owner portal for our clients that the software I mean it’s just it’s and make it much easier so that we don’t like our team doesn’t have to send out Purchase Agreements it’ll be right there because we have so many clients it like we’ll have like three or four clients and want the same house and so a little like yeah give you a purchase agreement and it’s kind of like first-come first-serve and then our team has to send out a purchase agreement wait till it’s signed and all that BS so this will make it very easy for them to be able to click right on it and then open up DocuSign and be able to do it and pretty great Ryan Millie says okay what are the mechanics after purchasing one property to purchase another property or two and repeat the process over and over again where does that money come from well ideally it could come from a bank right or it could come from private money it could come from you know we we talked about a company that we work with called fund and grow less you know if you go to our if you go to our website Morris and vest com slash funding you don’t pay them any money until they actually if they get you money zero percent Interest but why would look at okay so let’s just take the mechanics of that to answer your question so I would say you know buying like a sixty seventy thousand dollar rental property and then leveraging that right so maybe putting or or if you have the cash to do that right that ideally if you could come out of the gate you have the cash to purchase your first one free and clear that’s more of a B Class play you know that’s sort of B minus like 60 65 70 K place play that’s kind of maybe you know it’s transitioning up to sort of an a-class neighborhood and it you know coud appraised in a few years at 80 or 75 that’s the play right so buying that if you could buy that with cash right and then refinancing a pull some equity back out of that and then be able to roll that next amount of cash the bank just gave you into your next property into your second property and then into your third property a buddy of mine here in New Jersey started and did that on an eighty thousand dollar property he now has over two thousand units here our DNA and money when he started and he bought that first property that first property allowed him the snowball and all of these other properties and identity jjh yeah unfortunately JJ was said you purchase second property in Indy in November we’ll hopefully get an answer for you an update on where we’re at with the rehab and we’ll also make sure we connect you with the right management team if you’re having some issues you know we work with a 8 different property management teams so what gets you sort it out so just you know email our team you know the team you know our team at Morris invest email us we had a really really really unusually harsh winter that set us back about four or five weeks on construction this year with like a deep freeze we had stuff all the way through Michigan into Indiana down into Pennsylvania where we just had all kinds of problems Ryan you are absolutely welcome thank you so much Sean says you weren’t able to pull cash off the cards they got through funding to grow yeah that’s unfortunate we have literally funny grows enabled our clients to raise over 20 million dollars for purchases of real estate so I’m not sure why that person had an issue they’re very very good at walking you through step by step I just would say reach out to them and make sure that you’re working with them they they have a thing with gold money so basically they use the cards to buy gold and then you transfer the gold into cash it’s like a little bit of a few hoops to jump through but hey it’s 0% interest for a year you know hey beggars can’t be choosers right we were able to get a hundred and seventy six thousand dollars in cash because of them in order to purchase real estate so it’s an amazing strategy so again and you’ll save like five hundred bucks if you go through our website because we’ve asked them to do that for people who watch us and who listen to us so if you go to Morris invest com slash funding check it out it might not be for you if it is great just check them out you know I have a phone call with them Joe Joe wants to know what appliances do you provide actually I don’t do any appliances in our properties now that is to say if we move into some of the b-class properties we some we will sometimes put in a fridge and stove and things like that but far as a washer and dryer we have I made that mistake when I first started in Michigan I bought all appliances and found out that I didn’t need to that it’s commonplace that tenants will provide all of their appliances they will usually typically go down to a local you know like a little scratch and dent company etc or that’s where I bought my first appliances when I had my first condo in Florida I went to a local scratch and dent place they’re brand new that may have like a tiny little little scratchy scratch on the side and you get a great deal on a bundle of appliances so that’s what most client most tenants will do and then they’ll keep them for many many years so you don’t have to worry about it so Daniel wants to know what’s the fee for you guys to do investing for me there is no fee with us at all I know some other companies charge like ten percent all that stuff we don’t do that you’re just buying the house we just you know and try to get it all stabilized for you with property management team and cash flowing so you don’t have any additional fees you own the property free and clear Jimmy says how do you organize your banking system for your real estate business great question Jimmy you know we have a couple of podcast episodes Natalie and I do where we talk about how to run your you know your family business and finances for real estate investing if you want to check out the investing in real estate podcast you can do so and we have some of those episodes you know the short answer is that you want to have bank accounts set up for your taxes you want to have bank accounts set up for your LLC that owns your rental property and personally so I have LLC’s that own my rental properties those LLC’s have their own bank account so when the cash flow from the tenant comes in I Clayton Morris don’t touch that money that goes into the business then I can pull that money out but you can’t commingle money like you don’t if it’s a business that owns your real estate you don’t want that money coming in to your personal bank account that’s called commingling that’s illegal the IRS does not look favorably upon that so you want to do everything aboveboard making sure that everything is flowing the way that it should Bobby yes what’s the best way to start a property management team no cash but at the time and looking to help investors well I would say to start a property management company takes about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars I know this to be the case so right away to be spending one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to set everything up okay you’re gonna need you’re gonna need to pay for software things like rent manager appFolio those types of things you’re gonna want to hire an accountant you’re gonna want to hire an office manager you’re gonna need to hire leasing agent you also need to get a brokerage right you need to have a brokerage license to make sure that you can manage property so all those things cost some money so to start a property management company that’s what about that’s what it roughly costs and then about if you have more than 100 properties the rule of thumb is for every hundred properties or so you’re gonna want to add another human being to your to your company to facilitate those properties that came to me as a friend of mine who ran his own property management company those are the exact numbers that he used James wants so what’s the area oh it’s just on the website to find the gold funding option so just go to Morris and Vess comm slash funding it’s sort of a hidden page because we don’t like promote it but it’s there if you sign up like I said you’ll save 500 bucks once they get you the money you don’t pay anything until they get you the cards Peter said spoke briefly with your guy Justin have a self-directed IRA I was interested that was a month ago he was going to keep an eye out for a property and haven’t heard back Peter I will follow up with Justin or you can just you know feel free to reach out to Justin as well from our team because we we can set up a whole dashboard for you for the self direction so I’ll make sure that Justin gets back to you Peter I’ll have our team make sure we go through this comment thread to take care of it okay how can you cash out on a $40,000 property well so $40,000 homes are tricky because banks are lazy or appraisers are lazy so a bank is going to hire an appraiser to go in and they’re going to those types of properties they’re being sold every day to investors like I might buy thirty of them right but guess what they’re all off market so they’re not being sold on a multiple listing service like you buy a house for a hundred thousand right with a realtor and so when an appraiser goes to pull comps in order to appraise the property they don’t have any comps to work with the only cops they have are ones that are on the MLS the ones that they end up pulling end up being ones that are like foreclosures or pre rehab so you might have a forty thousand dollar house and you know it’s worth forty forty three forty two but they might appraise it at twenty because the only thing they could find that sold recently on that street was a foreclosure that’s not been rehabbed yet so you can’t you kind of at a crapshoot if you’re planning to do a refinance here’s my suggestion it’s just move up into those sixty sixty-five seventy thousand dollar homes and then you’re putting like you know then you’re able to pull almost like the full equity out of that house or close to it if the bank then cuts you a check for fifty fifty five great then you can roll that into your next property so I just would say told code don’t try to go super cheap if you’re planning on doing a refinance banks are lazy and you’re frankly just at the mercy of these banks you know I can pull up sales disclosures with hundreds of sales where the house is selling for forty three forty five but guess what the appraiser will not look at that and so then you’re at the mercy of like a foreclosure that’s on the Multiple Listing Service and unfortunately it’s it’s just difficult now we’ve had people who’ve done refinances on forty thousand dollar homes and you know like one of our clients recently bought one for forty three it appraised for fifty five but again it’s a crapshoot he could have just as easily had the appraiser come back and say you know well we think that house is worth twenty two so remember what you’re buying is cash flow when you’re buying that low and you’re trying for that high of are a lie you’re you’re sort of like the investor that’s buying 50 properties like that they don’t care about ever refinancing they just want the ROI they want the cash flow I hope that makes sense sure our Lara says I’ve got a shooter I think I missed it sorry zip past it Ahmad it’s kind of invest the United States if I’m not a US citizen yes you can you know just book a call with our team we have people I mean we have a lot of investors Canada and New Zealand all over the world who invest with us do I see Florida getting to California prices within 10 years seeing a lot of new construction and price hikes there in Tampa yeah a lot of those coastal areas you know Tampa those types of places Clearwater Miami of course I don’t see them getting to California craziness you wanted let me tell you a California story the reason it’s ridiculous so like the same house that I might do in Michigan or Indiana and then our clients would buy maybe like a 3-bedroom 1-bath in the $50,000 range right well there was a 3-bedroom 1-bath last week on the market in the bay area for $900,000 and guess what it was condemned it’s a condemned house selling for $900,000 in the bay area that’s California it’s crazy absolutely crazy Mario says I was thinking about buying houses in my name under a HELOC on my primary residence and then when I get to three to five houses to a portfolio loan and all three to five and an LLC is that okay yeah I mean but why would you need to buy them if you’re using a HELOC to buy them just buy them in an LLC now you know there’s no reason you should buy them in your own name at all ever buy them buy them in an LLC if you’re using the HELOC it doesn’t matter how you use the he lock key lock is cash right you could go out and buy a boat if you wanted to with your he lock the bank doesn’t care you’re just writing a check from your he lock so why not buy them in your own name now I’ve started buy them in an LLC today you’re using the he lock on your primary residence it doesn’t matter the bank doesn’t care what you’re doing with that money you just have to pay it back but I to me having a HELOC is one of the killer strategies I love a key lock on my primary residence I use it to buy properties all day long Michele says what are your thoughts on using quicken loans to buy a house I’ve never done it you know hey if you can get good rates and good terms from a bank to buy to buy a house great go for it I don’t see why not video teaching can you recommend a bank for a HELOC on a New Jersey property lakeland la ke Lakeland Bank we love them they’re fantastic smh ninja on the funding Grove fees no notice he you’re refinancing very quickly so you’re gonna refinance very very quickly by that fifty sixty thousand dollar home and then get it into a long-term 30-year note and you pay off the you pay off the zero interest credit cards and then you recycle them so that’s what fund and grow does they recycle and get you more zero percent and then you can just rinse and repeat that’s why it’s a great strategy so you’re not keeping those cards for you know with like you bought a house on a credit card for twenty years you’re refinancing it within that first twelve eighteen months and yes you can quit claim deed you can move a property to an LLC Kevin wants to know thoughts on an umbrella insurance versus LLC well that’s well I say you have both I mean I would definitely have insurance and also have your properties in a limited liability company the reason you have your properties in a limited liability company is so that people will come after you personally that’s the key right you don’t want people if tenant slips and falls because a handrail wasn’t fixed on your one property and this happened to a buddy of mine in Philadelphia he has a property and a girl was drinking one night she came home to the condo she slipped outside because the sidewalk had like this much of a differential and sued him fortunately you know he had insurance but fortunately the case got dismissed or dwindled down where he only had to pay like seventeen thousand can’t come out of pocket seventeen thousand to pay for this girl slipping and falling at his property because he had the property at his own name so don’t put properties in your own name if you don’t need to there’s no reason to forest so to have a bank you recommend for refine 50k rentals I guess it just depends yeah I mean there’s a couple you know State Farm actually the insurance company has a refinance program a national program Northpoint Bank all one word with an e at the end North Point also has a refinance program they’re a national company as well you could look into them Daniel says how do you tell if a property is a B or C class that’s a great question I’ve got a whole video series here on our YouTube channel about how to understand that so you can if you want to look that up right here on the channel it goes more deeply into that but the short answer is an a-class neighborhood I like to avoid an 8 class neighborhood or those two you know two hundred three hundred thousand dollar homes two-car garages maybe they have a swimming pool they’re in the best neighborhoods I stay away from those as an investment property because you’re gonna have the most moving parts that break you’re gonna have the most entitled tenants that cause the biggest headaches and cause you the biggest problems so garage door openers that break garbage disposals that break multiple heating and air systems that break you know avoid those those also have the most volatility those tend to be the areas where those in a big recession lose their job the a-class neighborhoods we saw that across the country right these a class neighborhoods where people lost their jobs and all these houses went into foreclosure and people couldn’t pay their rent or the value plummeted significantly so let’s say they’re renting it from you for $3,000 a month in an a-class neighborhood and everyone loses their job all around that a class neighborhood now the rent is you know you’re gonna have to go down like 20 2022 hundred a month or even 1800 a month we saw that in Manhattan right people renting Manhattan apartments for thirty five hundred bucks a month the recession hits and guess what all these Wall Street people lose their jobs etc and those went down significantly you could rent a place in Manhattan for eighteen hundred a month instead of the 35 that you could before the recession but guess what those C class neighborhoods say the same those C and B class neighborhoods roughly stayed the same it’s consistent cash flow those are the people that tend not to lose their jobs those are the people that are working blue-collar b-class is kind of moving towards an a-class it has better schools slightly lower ROI but I’ve been buying a lot more B class properties lately personally because you know when you get to a point of having find enough cash flow you really want to start thinking about buying those more expensive B class because you’re creating more of a tax shelter for yourself you’re creating that bigger spread that bigger tax shelter and you’re adding to your net worth more significantly so but C and B are my favorites so I’ve been a lot of C and I’m starting to buy a lot more B yeah lisa says that’s why I like condos no outside maintenance but then I don’t like the associations right I do not like HOA fees and I’ve got a whole video on HOAs because HOAs honestly you’re sort of at the mercy of these people I mean you’re literally at the mercy of these people and you never know when they’re going to decide to change the bylaws and make it so that you can’t rent the place or they’re gonna hit you with a big roof assessment you’re gonna have to pay you know $5,000 for a new roof on the property you have no control over that so homeowners associations I’m not a fan of Daniel we don’t we don’t have a number for you to call us because we want to be able to schedule it with you so just go to our website click on the schedule a consultation button you literally answer like eight questions like your first name last name best email address to get a hold of you make sure you type in your phone number correctly and then we just ask you a few quick questions like how many properties do you currently have what are your goals and then you pick on the calendar the time that you want to schedule a call with us it’s very simple so it’s up to you you know that you got the kids from to p.m.

We don’t write so we want you to pick the time that best serves your needs it’ll go on your calendar we’ll send you an email reminder about ten minutes before your call and we’ll jump on the phone with you and talk to you for like thirty minutes Chad boys wants to know how is Capp West you know I heard good things about them years ago but then I think I heard things kind of fell off and I haven’t really actually heard many people using them so I don’t know I’ve never used cap West what if you want to live duplex a class neighborhood your thoughts well Rodney I mean some few if you want to live in the property that’s up to you right because that’s a different animal than investing in a property but if you want to live in a duplex than in a class neighborhood great you buy it I would rent out the other side so that they’re paying your mortgage that’s an investment right that’s an investment property in a class neighborhood so you know go for it you know just a matter of whether if you’re in an a class neighborhood are you likely to have a higher turnover on the rent because people want to have their own single-family home they might not necessarily want to split a house with somebody if they’re in a class neighborhood you know when I was younger I was fine kind of having a shared wall with somebody but now that I’ve got three kids and I’m an adult there’s no way I want to share a wall with somebody else you know I want my own place I want my own yard what do I think about a land trust well it’s funny you mention that as our tax accountant thinks that they are a total mistake so I do not do anything in the land trust sam says I spoke to Glenn a few minutes ago awesome

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